Thursday, February 25, 2010

Are there no "traditional" parishes in the Archdiocese?

Yesterday, I published a request asking about a good parish for a new Catholic to attend. It would have to be "traditional" and a place this person could call home.

To date, I have only one recommendation. .

I think that this speaks volumes about the state of our parishes in this diocese.

I will make two recommendations. First, Msgr. Pope's parish - Holy Comforter/St. Cyprian. Now, I have not been there, but one of my co-workers thinks very highly of Msgr. Pope and the work he does.

I have heard that St. Raymond's in the Diocese of Arlington is also very good.


Anonymous said...

Our Lady of Lourdes in Bethesda is considered a "conservative " parish.

Anonymous said...

Actually, this is speaks volumes to the honesty of your readership.

Secondly, keep in mind that not all of your readers are from the Beltway area. Those readers weren't going to pretend to know something they didn't.

Thirdly, this whole thing probably speaks volumes about the entire Vatican II church in America. Ask people to name a faithful and/or traditional and/or non-heretical and/or non-compromising parish that exists in any American diocese. Do you think that you would get more than 2, 3, or 4 parishes per diocese? If so, then that would be an education and a half. In fact, it would be an education to some degree if you were to ask for parish names nationwide, and then wait for the comments.


To Anon: 1:29PM

1. It does.
2. Yes, there are many from outside the area. I realize that.
3. Yes, I agree.

Anonymous said...

Have the young lady get introduced to the other rites of the church. Yes, she is entering via the Latin Rite door, however, she can fulfill her Sunday obligation in any rite. Communion and confession is good to go in any rite for any Catholic, also.

Let her take a trip to the Ukrainian Catholic National Shrine on Harewood Road. That's 4250 Harewood Rd. NE Washington, DC 20017. 202-526-3737.

Why Ukrainian first? ANS: Malachi Martin said that the salvation of the world, as promised at Fatima, would first spark in the Ukrainian world. Malachi definitely was right about Wuerl and China, as well as the first 1978 papal election in which he predicted that Albino Cardinal Luciani would success Paul VI.

Let her go to the Ukrainian Shrine, and have her then take it from there. It looks a lot like the Land of Oz, minus the emerald trim. Instead of emerald time, the Ukrainian shrine has golden trim. It wouldn't hurt to go and see what might come of visiting it.

Now, concerning the claims that the Fatima consecration was done and that the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary has already occurred, take note:

The promise, upon completion of the consecration of Russia, would be "a period of Peace granted to the World." That did not come. Rather, one calendar year after the Vatican claimed Fatima to have been fulfilled, 9/11 occurred. Then came Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as Somalian piracy. During that time span, England, Spain, Iraq, Chechnya, etc., were hit with the opposite of peace. And don't forget about the rioting in sweatshopville Indonesia. There was rioting in France, too.

If the consecration validly were done in 1984, there would also have been:

- no Somalia Part I.
- no Dafur genocide.
- no Rwanda genocide.
- no Lockerbie Bombing.
- no Invasion of Panama.
- no Columbian Drug Wars.
- no Sicilain Mafia bombings.
- no Tokyo Subway gas attack.
- no massive USA debt owned
  by sweatshop profiteer China.
- no Bosnia & Herzegovina War.
- no drug violence in Nuevo Laredo.
- no nationwide clergy sex abuse scandals.
- etc.

It's time for the Vatican to fess up and admit that its members were trying to con us. They neither conned God nor the Virgin Mary. They definitely didn't con Satan, either. Well, come to think of it, they even failed to con us --- after five years of giving the Vatican the benefit of the doubt for its claiming of something that was contrary to the reality of the day. If the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart Mary occurred, don't you think that elective abortion would be recognized as cold blooded murder by all governments? Quite frankly, when that triumphs does occur, no one is going to have to announce it from the Vatican or anywhere else. You'll know it immediately.

Anonymous said...

You're talking D.C. here - the home of the Theological Closet. Let's face it. If the ADW were an automobile, it would have been recalled by now.

Anonymous said...

Nice Freedom of Religion that you guys have at the nation's capital. A person can't find a traditional minded parish to freely attend when in D.C. Maybe we should put the capital back in Philly.

Remember when there was the thought to put the U.S. capital in the middle of the nation? If someone followed through with that thought, our congress would be meeting on some Kansas wheat field at this hour.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps its time for you to know that your web log has a subtitle:

Wuerl Watch.

This is where you come, to keep tabs on Wuerl; to see what he's up to.

Anonymous said...

ST.Bernadette at 70 University BLVD Silverspring,MD 20901.The liturgy is very traditional and the music is outstanding.I think they also have a TLM once a week/month.Our Lady of Lourdes has problem with parishioners regularly arrive late at all time during Mass,it's a BIG distraction!

Anonymous said...

There are no traditional parishes in the archdiocese of Washington if you believe that traditional parishes have no female altar servers, no 'extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion', and no 'contemporary' music, and that they do have courageous, orthodox Catholic preaching, religious education, and adult catechesis. Some parishes have most of the last three; almost none are free of the first three. But at least it's better than Baltimore, which remains an ecclesiastical sewer.

Anonymous said...

Sacred Heart, Bowie. St. Mary's Assumption Upper Marlboro.

Viator Catholicus said...

To 2nd to last Anonymous:
Old St. Mary's on 5th and H has no female altar servers, has no 'contemporary' music, and does have orthodox Catholic preaching. Most Masses do not have extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion, although some of the elderly priests, one who walks with a limp, seem to use them.
It is mostly a commuter parish so has no religious instruction nor RCIA. I've come to learn that parents are expected to teach their children the Baltimore catechism and the pastor then questions them for their sacramental preparation.
Confessions are heard EVERY DAY, including 2 times on Sundays starting at 8:30 and then again at 7:00 pm. Often these confessions continue to be heard while Mass is going on.
I've been to Novus Ordo Masses where the priest face ad orientem.
St. Mary's has had the traditional Mass at least since 1988.
Msgr. Pope is usually the celebrant of the High Mass at 5 pm on 2nd Sundays of the month.

Anonymous said...

Though it is not a part of the Archdiocese of Washington (It's an Eastern Rite Parish using the Divine Liturgy of John Chrysostom and subject to the Archeparchy of Philadelphia), I would HIGHLY recommend the Ukrainian Catholic National Shrine of the Holy Family on Harewood Road NE just up the street from the Basilica. I'm a parishoner there; though I'm not Ukrainian. Liturgies are 9 AM english and 11:15 Ukrainian Liturgies. We're fully catholic, but as JP2 said, we breath with the other lung ;-)

Anonymous said...

The Ukrainian Rite got two corroborating votes of confidence on this comment board. Well a close friend of mine prefers the Ukrainian Rite Mass too, and she was raised in the Roman Rite. So, that unofficially make it three votes for the Ukrainian world. Looks good to go from this perceptive.

And remember, the Ukrainian Rite is 100% Catholic.

Anonymous said...

I know Baltimore is a heck of a drive, but there's a TLM at St. Alphonsus in Baltimore City. From what I can glean from the Masses I have been to at that parish, it is very conservative-unusual for Baltimore!

Anonymous said...

Sacred Heart Bowie has only boy altar servers, my son is in training now.

Anonymous said...

Saint Alphonsus has the Traditional Latin Mass at 11:00 on Sundays, at 7:00 pm on major Holy Days, and on Wednesdays and Saturdays at 12:10 during Lent. Sadly, with the exception the first Sunday of each month (chant Mass), the externals of the Mass are pretty awful: 90-minute Low Masses with excruciating organ music on 2nd and 4th Sundays and a fairly painful choir in 3rd Sundays. There is no parish life or parish activities whatsoever. It's an extremely unfriendly place for newcomer and generally a gloomy, depressing place--and I write this as a staunch Catholic Traditionalist who *only* attends Mass in the Extraordinary Form.